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Monday, October 16, 2006

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Loudlush

I was holding onto my gut, rocking and whimpering whilst reading about the "eye thing". I can't even bear getting a stray eyelash outta there. Can't wait to hear about the longer term (six weeks, huh?) results of the procedure. Do we get to see any before and after pics??

RA

HI,
I am about to have this procedure done on 12/8 and wonder if you would recommend it. Fortunately I wear contacts and have been warned about that part.
Thanks, RA

HH

RA - Would I recommend Active FX? Hard to say, really, now that it is two months later. It may depend on the condition of your skin, and the most factual expectation you can have of the result. The biggest change I saw - after the initial recovery period - was the loss of my summer tan. I use sunscreen, but the sun has a way of leaving its kiss nevertheless. I have been told that I have very good skin, so all I can say right now, is that I see little, if any visible change. I'm supposed to go back for a follow-up treatment, one that does not require the scary eye-cups. In truth, and in contrast, the results from Botox are fast and real. I guess I prefer Botox.

HH

Oh - and to Loudlush. Apparently my "before" pics are not a useful comparison instrument. They were taken after the application of the gel/cream anesthetic. I was told that this "plumped" my features, negating the usefulness of a before-and-after comparison. Hmmm...

S.

Hi, I just had this done last Tues.. so today is day 5. They said it takes 5-7 days to recover & on day 5 you can wear makeup. um.. NO! Not me! I drove 3 hours to have this done & when I got there they asked where my driver was.. stating they needed to give me valium or percocet & that I could not drive then. Well.. no driver = no pain meds. So I did it w/o the pain meds. I have never had this procedure before but I have had IPL. Anyway, yes, the eye things totally freaked me out. & yes, it felt like millions of tiny bee stings. I had my face & neck & chest done. The doc took a break after my face. I was shivering uncontrollably. They wrapped me in a blanket but I was still shivering. The doc kept telling me to relax & breathe!.. HA! She said the shivering might be my reaction to pain.. my mucsles were contracting. Anyway, day 5 & I still have not peeled. The snakeskin is still there & it is very tight. It burned like hell right after it was done & they said that would go away in 3 hours. It did.. by the time I drove myself 3 hours home, no more burn. But I did stop to use the restroom on the way home.. & the little girl standing in line in front of me could not take her eyes off my face! I looked like a burn victim. My face was bright red w/ this thick clear gel all over. So I have been doing as they said.. washing 3 times a day & putting that cream on. Still, I wonder how much longer til I peel!? Right now, it is tight& w/ the dark brown dots all over.. & it itches! Sure hope it is worth the $3500 + antibiotics & antiviral meds & gas to get there & back! Oh.. I go back Tues for my check up.

HH

Dear S., Incredible story, and thanks for telling it. I was interested to read that someone else had the shivering reaction. There must be some kind of biological reason. It's been four months for me now, and I do not see any discernible changes, although it may be difficult to tell, since any improvement may be subtle. Perhaps the benefit occurs below the surface. Do return and update your progress in the coming weeks.

jan

hi, I just had the procedure done 5 days ago, mainly to be rid of my brown spots. I had valium and vicodin; however it was still very painful. I experienced extreme jaw pain for a day because of clinching my jaw during the procedure.On day 5, I am sluffing off skin and the brown spots have disappeared in some spots already. I will let you know the long term effects.

HH

Jan, thanks for your comment. It seems as though there is a range of similar experiences among the different stories. And please do update once the brown spots slough off. I hope the results are what you hoped for.

Robin

I'm considering this procedure to smooth out or eliminate the fine lines/orange peeling. Did any of you find that the FX peeled enough skin to show that result?

HH

Robin, I hope some of the other commenters weigh in on your question. For myself, I do not believe I've ever had "orange peeling." As for fine lines, I cannot, in truth, see any real difference. Right after the procedure, however, I did feel a tightening, but I expect that was from the sloughing off of the brown spots.

priscilla witham

I'm getting the active fx done on March the 12 would you recommend geting local anaesthesia or Vicadin?

HH

Priscilla, I think it's up to you: which anaesthesia you choose to use. I think it has to do with how you react to Vicodin. The gel-like topical (local) anaesthetic would never have been enough for me, on its own. But as it turns out, I have a pretty severe reaction to orally ingested anaesthesia. It took me a while to get out from under the drugs I took. Bon chance!

DeBias


Would you do it again?

My father (Glenn DeBias, D.O. / www.ilamed.com) innovated this procedure in 2004. Although we normally do not dispense pain medication, we use a topical anaesthetic and an air cooling device to pre-cool.

For everyone who had ActiveFX (fractional laser skin tightening) and would like to share the experience, please email your story kdebias@ilamed.com. I'm very interested to hear from you and your perspective.

Have a great weekend.

Cathy Weise

I'm scheduled for the procedure on the 13th. Selected it because of the representation that it will improve texture, remove lines, lift and tighten. Should last 4 to 7 years. What I'm reading is that it really doesn't provide these results - no noticable change at least after a couple of months. Anyone notice that time makes a noticable difference? Thanks for the feedback - I still have time to cancel.

jd

I had the proceedure yesterday, March 16 and they forgot to tell me how much it hurt. I took a valium and two vicodin plus the numbing cream, but oh my god. It felt like someone was constantly shocking me with a lazer gun - oh wait, they were. We finally discovered that 2-5 at a time was easier for me to tolerate. Yes my face was hot for a few hours, but small ziplock bags of peas helped. Today I look rather scarey with little brown dots, but my goal is to remove brown spots and soften up the wrinkles. I hope it works because it was very painful.

HH

Thanks for the comment, JD. I hear you about the pain and recovery. It's been three days since your procedure, right? I hope you are feeling better. My question is this: Did the office that conducted your procedure adequately advise about the range of pain you could feel? My experience was painful for a few seconds here and there, overall not so much. Later that night, my face hurt. I was less prepared for the recovery process. In truth, I was unprepared for the eye protection, or for the after-reaction to the painkillers. Now, I find my own reactions weirdly funny. I wonder if more advance information would be useful.

HH

Oops - I made a gaffe in my last comment. I meant it for "JD," not "Cathy," as I had originally written. I hope everyone is recovering well and rapidly.

fificat

I had the treatment yesterday, March 29th and they did explain everything to me and I had a Valium and a Vicodin prior to the prodedure. After that they applied the numbing cream and the procedure itself took about 30 minutes but the prep time before that was about 45 minutes. I had arranged for a ride home as I knew in advance that I could not think of driving and I was a little sleepy after the procedure and lay down for a while. My face was sore in the car on the way home, particulaly on the areas where they did two passes. I used the copper cream when I reached home and thwn I fell asleep. My friend picked up my prescriptions for me but I never took either the Valium or Vicodin inthe end as I had no pain after I woke up - just tightness and a little discomfort. I look horrible today - like a puffy lizard but I am going back on Monday top have the peel and I hope to be wearing make up by Tuesday. I'm going away next Thursday and I am hoping to look normal by then. The reason I had the procedure was to correct a little slackening in the chin area. I hope it works as I had absolutely no problems with my skin ever and had no noticeable wrinkles to begin with, as I had my eyes done in 2005. I would have opted for liposuction of the chin area but the doc suggested this procedure instead. I will let you all know how I get on from day to day.

HH

Dear Fificat, please do let us all know how it turns out. It's been six months for me, and in all truth, I see no difference. There may be benefits well below the upper layers of skin, and if there is, well then: terrific.

fificat

I look much worse today than yesterday. Now I am not only red and lizardy but I'm also swollen. The said day 3 is the worst and I'm not sure if this is day 2 or 3, being that I had the preocedure on Thursday - do they call the day of the procedure day 1 or is it the next day?. I cannot imagine looking any worse but the tightness is not so bad. I am expecting to be able to wear make up by Tuesday but unless this whole thing goes away overnight I very much doubt it. Now I keep thinking that I did'nt look bad to begin with. The only benefit I wanted from this was a little more tightness in the chin area but this is a lot to go through just for that and I feel that tightness is not the primary result of active fx in the first place. Keep your fingers crossed for me as I'm more than a little worried.

HH

Fifcat, incredible: After the procedure, I thought I would be able to go out in public within three days. Nope. It was more like five or six days (an entire week, actually). I had a facial and planing (akin to a straight razor scrape) on the fourth day, after which my skin felt hypersensitive and tender. It reads as though you are experiencing the same timing, at the very least. Tell more as the days pass.

fificat

Well its now Sunday and I've been in the house since Thursday. Today I am flaky and itchy but still red and swollen. There is hardly any improvement since yesterday and I am going back to the doctor tomorrow to get the mask and planing that you described. Unless there is a miracle I would be amazed to be wearing make up by Tuesday. Turns out all my friends feel that I was a bit rash to go for this procedure. Speaking of rash, I look like I have a bad case of measles and brown measles at that!!!! I hope that it will be worth it in the end and nothing would make me happier than to let you know next Tuesday that I am out and about and looking great but somehow I doubt it.

fificat

Today I went for the facial with dermaplaning and the oxymist. Now the brown flaky parts are all gone, thanks to the dermaplaning which is definitely akin to a shave. The doctor and staff all think I am doing very well but I guess my idea of downtime is different to theirs. I never expected to look this ugly for so many days
and even today, although it is much better after my doctor's visit, I still look like a pink pig. My face is still swollen and I will be lucky to look normal by the week-end. I will try some make up tomorrow but normal make up could not cover this face as it is right now. I think the downtime of this procedure is downplayed and the severity and radical nature of the procedure are also glossed over. There were two other post laser patients in the doctors office at the same as me and we all looked like burn victims!!!. I will check back tomorrow with my progress, if any.

I am wondering ... I heard that this procedure works very well for fairly old people, like around 70 or so. Are you all that age? If so, then maybe it takes longer to heal than if you are younger? Can you help me out here as I am having a consult tomorrow. Thanks much.

HH

As ever, thanks for the comments.

Fificat, without question, it took an entire week for the initial healing process. I was irked on two counts. The first goes to exactly what you wrote: I was told the recovery process would be much faster than it actually was. Second, I was warned off of my regular workout for at least a week - something about controlling the amount of sweat. And my daily workout is fairly intense. My face didn't feel close to normal again for another three weeks. And, a smallish after-effect was my hairline. The laser has burned off the hair around my scalp line, and that needed to re-grow.

As for the second comment today, unless I knew for certain that I was a "good healer," I would not risk the procedure. I am not fifty, and I know I would not do it again.

Keep the stories coming...

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